Some times people just won't listen!

Sometimes, it really doesn't matter how hard you try to warn them, some people will not see the danger until its ripped dirty great chunks out of them.

I warned someone months ago, that there was a significant danger from a third party. That third party was lying outta their big fat botty wotty. I was promised an investigation, and a follow up email was also promised. Well never got that so can only assume that the investigation never happened.

Got a message from a friend today, telling me of their shock at the latest BS to issue from this third party. Talking on a subject that some people are very very knowledgeable, third party is making huge huge great bloopers.

Yet none of those who could do something about this piece of work, will do anything!

I predict, a lot more damage and destruction is going to be done. I predict that a whole bunch of people are going to get hurt .... again. Me? I am just glad to be out of it. If those in authority cannot and will not protect the vunlerable, who look to them for care, support and protection, then who the heck would want to be under thair 'authority and care' !!

A place that should be a refuge is yet again going to turn into a bloodbath. Its heart breaking that they choose to take that line. I am sorry for all those who will get hurt, yet so so glad to be out the whole mess!

Munchausens by Internet.

It seems that there is now a term for those irritating people who occasionaly invade online support groups, Munchausens by Internet. Like Munchausens and Munchausens by proxy, they invent illnesses in order to get sympathy and attention from others. There are places to seek advice on dealing with these kinds of sick individuals.

I frequent any number of web forums, some dealing with very sick kids, some just regular chat places, but on all I have come across at one time or the other, people apparently suffering from MBI, or as I like to call them LYING ATTENTION SEEKING SICK BITCHES because sadly other than one case, they have all been women.

Despite popular belief, not all MBI's fake illnesses. They will fake ANYTHING in order to get attention, in my experience. I have in the last few years for example seen people ( though another word would be more appropriate!) who claim they are being abused by their partner, sometimes physical abuse, sometimes emotional, claims of being raped, of finding out their child has been abused, that they are being evicted, that they are being stalked by a bloke on the net, that they have been robbed, that their mothers neighbours cat has cancer .... you name it I have seen it, some and they all fall down on one thing. They forget that people TALK to each othger. So when they tell person A one version of events, then person B another version, they do not seem to realise that person A and person B talk to each other as well!! Or they mix up their stories on the forum to which they are lying. That I always find highly amusing, one site I frequent has members who will 'out' the perpetrator, linking all the relevant posts to prove the person is nothing but a stinking liar.

It is also noticeable that these people always find a major 'crisis' occuring just when somebody else is in need of some major attention or help. I have seen that so often I can almost predict what 'crisis' will occur next and how it will progress!! Clever me !!


Do these people deserve our sympathy? Is it a case that they are suffering from a genuine mental illness and need help? Or is it that they are by nature just the most selfish, uncaring, self centred twats that ever lived ?

Part of me says they are mentally ill and need help, but know again from experience that most of them refuse o admit that they are ill, so to try and get them to seek help is a waste of time. So are they really ill ? Whatever, they wind me up something chronic. I wish they would remember the maxim.. 'There is always someone worse off than you ' ... trouble is they want to be the person who is worse off in order to get all the attention.

Feel free to share your thoughts.

The troll - an open letter

This is an open letter to the person who has caused so much pain and distress, whom I posted about in my last message. Feel free to add your comments at the bottom. I will be emailing her a link to this page so she can see for herself just how much damage she has done


Dear Elaina,

Yes shock Horror I named you. Why? Because you deserve to be named. I understand totally why they have not named and shamed you on the Heart boards. To be honest I think most people have figured it out now and to go over and over it on there will destroy the purpose of that board, it will leave a constant reminder of the fact that you tried to damage a lot of people and the board itself. That board is there for SUPPORT and for Information. Its not for the likes of you to play out your twisted fantasies

Lets start at the very beginning, a very good place to start as Julie Andrews said.

You came on to the boards, you said your son was sick , Kristopher had, you claimed anyway to have pulmonary atresia with vsd. He was in surgery as you posted, and you , so you claimed were using a laptop in the hospital. I believed you. I had no reason not to. I did something then that I regret , I asked a lovely kind and caring lady to help you. She is not being named here, though she may wish to add a comment on the bottom!! She, I thought would be able to help you better than the rest of us because she was at least in the same country as you. She could put you in touch with other people at the hospital Kristopher was in, I also pointed you in the direction of the american heart boards , something else I now bitterly regret doing.

All went well with Kristophers surgery, then bang he was poorly again, his brain swelled and you and Ryan were told that Kristopher was brain dead. Not the first time that something like that had happened to a heart child. There was no reason to doubt the validity of your story. You got sympathy, messages of love and support.

Then came the first of the messages that raised doubt in some minds. You claimed that a top cardiologist from Boston childrens hospital was flying up to Michigan to see Kristopher. Then came the miracle, the cardiologist said Kristopher was OK, he was not braindead . The doctor took you out for dinner and bought presents for Kristopher and your stepson.

Two weeks later you took Kris home on oxygen. More alarm bells rang for mne at that point. having been involved in nursing, I wondered how they could sort out home oxygen so quickly, bearing in mind your age, and your oft stated state of poverty. But I bit back my doubts after making an initial enquiry into your location.

Then came yet another disaster , Kris was rushed intohospital with a virus, was discharged home with antibiotics, then rushed back in where he died.

People were sad for you Elaina, genuinely sad and distressed, many of those were people who had lost their own so precious children.

Then came the final lie, the one that convinced alot of people that you were a liar. You claimed that at ten weeks of pregnancy your new baby had been diagnosed with Hypoplastic Left Heart , well as all the heart parents knew very well, diagnosis are just NOT made that early. Its impossible Elaina , the heart is too small and not fully formed at ten weeks. There is no doctor on earth who would EVER diagnose something like that.

A few members got together and started digging, one in particular,m
who again I will not name as I want to protect her identity. She is free of course to post her feelings here and identify herself if she wants to. She found another site. One where you had posted all sorts of things, but made no mention of your sons death, indeed the day you alleged he was rushed into hospital you were there posting all night long with never a mention of him being in hospital. I searchred for the doctor you said was a cardiologist from Boston kids hospital, guess what ?hes not a cardiologist !! He is in fact a fetal surgeon, he operates on unborn babies, and ONCE was involved in surgey on an unborn baby woth HLHS, No way would he have done what you claimed ! Nor for that matter would Kristopher received all the treatment you claimed off state funded care. You know that !! Anyone who has experience of US health care willknow that. You certainly wouldn't have had a doctor fly allthat way, and take you out for dinner or bring gifts !!! Lots of little things Elaina but all added up to one thing

Elaina Bell of Michigan you are a liar. Worse than a simple liar, you manipulated peoples feelings and dsetroyed people.

One person in particular, who had seen their own child suffer irreprable brain damage, who had been told their child was brain dead, who had had to make the awful decision to switch off the machines keeping her body alive. A person who together with his wife had been through the most awful time in their lives, who had to bury their beautiful daughter, who had to live with what had happened, who had struggled to come to terms with their loss. They SUFFERED. Truly SUFFERED. That person had read your lies Elaina, and it destroyed him all over again. You in his own words ripped out his heart and stomped on it .... for what ? So you could get a few messages of symapthy from total strangers.

Some may say you are mentally ill, that maybe you have a reason for doing that. Well sorry , I do not think that. Mental illness is a great excuse isn't it ? Well I can tell you Elaina, you are not mentally ill, twisted, evil, attention seeking BITCH yes, mentally ill. Not in my my opinion.

I wish you could see the devastation you caused or is that what you wanted ? Is that why you did it ? To cause pain and distress to people who had offered you nothing but love and support ? Or was it because you wanted a bit of attention? Are you just some sad, spoilt little teenager, too selfish and stupid to think of the consequences of your actions? I think the latter, spolit, selfish and stupid kinda sums you up in my opinion.

I will wait a few days, give people who read my blog a chance to post their opinions and their feelings. Then I will email you a link to this post. Read it Elaina, read the comments, see what you have done and then email me back and tell me ... do you feel good now ?

You claimed to be a pagan. Well as you didn't even realise that its a sabbat this week, then I doubt it, but if you are perhaps you would care to remember the rule of three . The damage you have caused with your actions, will be revisited on you to a power of three.

Think on Elaina

Oh and before you threaten, as no doubt you will , to sue be for libel, remember that I have all the proof of your lies. You would have to PROVE that you did not tell those lies !!! You did tell the lies, as well you know . I have spoken the truth here, therefore you cannot sue me.

The floor is now open for your comments .